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		<title>Comment on Nietzsche on Master and Slave Morality by PhillyChief</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say it, but you&#039;d be incorrect since Nietzsche identified himself as a moralist and morality was at the core of all of his writing.

Perhaps what you meant to say was that the prevailing morality of his age was nonsense. That would be closer to his intent, but really his core message goes back to the revaluation of all values, where it is for each individual to examine everything of value, especially moral values, and decide for themselves what is good or bad. 

Btw, I hope when writing your thesis you spell check and use capitalization where applicable. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say it, but you&#8217;d be incorrect since Nietzsche identified himself as a moralist and morality was at the core of all of his writing.</p>
<p>Perhaps what you meant to say was that the prevailing morality of his age was nonsense. That would be closer to his intent, but really his core message goes back to the revaluation of all values, where it is for each individual to examine everything of value, especially moral values, and decide for themselves what is good or bad. </p>
<p>Btw, I hope when writing your thesis you spell check and use capitalization where applicable. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Nietzsche on Master and Slave Morality by Rob Farrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Farrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that Nietzsche is against &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; morality?  After all, he does think that some ways of life are better than others... doesn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that Nietzsche is against <em>all</em> morality?  After all, he does think that some ways of life are better than others&#8230; doesn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nietzsche on Master and Slave Morality by Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can i just say that i think Nietzsche is trying to say that morality is nonsense and we should learn to deal with that. he is saying that christian morality is life denying and and it only came from the hatred in Judaism. I am writing a thesis on Nietzsche and would love to no ur opinions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can i just say that i think Nietzsche is trying to say that morality is nonsense and we should learn to deal with that. he is saying that christian morality is life denying and and it only came from the hatred in Judaism. I am writing a thesis on Nietzsche and would love to no ur opinions</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kant and Deontology by jon</title>
		<link>http://py111.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/kant-and-deontology/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful, Thanks</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jim and The Indians by Ben</title>
		<link>http://py111.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/jim-and-the-indians/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would become enraged that they are killing innocent people just because they dislike the government. I would attempt to kill the soldiers even if I fail and am killed in the  process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would become enraged that they are killing innocent people just because they dislike the government. I would attempt to kill the soldiers even if I fail and am killed in the  process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jim and The Indians by Megan Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently studying this in A2 Philosophy and i am now doing a 50 mark question about utilitarianism and integrity. I think that although Jim may feel guilty about killing this one person he will be able to take solace in the fact that he has saved the life of 19 people. If you look at it throught the teleological theory a decision should aim to produce the most benefit, so if Jim were to kill one to save 19 it would be okay because more people benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently studying this in A2 Philosophy and i am now doing a 50 mark question about utilitarianism and integrity. I think that although Jim may feel guilty about killing this one person he will be able to take solace in the fact that he has saved the life of 19 people. If you look at it throught the teleological theory a decision should aim to produce the most benefit, so if Jim were to kill one to save 19 it would be okay because more people benefit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Course by Rob Farrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Farrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed today that the link to the repository had changed.  I&#039;ve updated it, but in case this happens again you may need to navigate your own way there through the Essex Philosophy Department website at http://www.essex.ac.uk/philosophy/.  Of course, if you&#039;re a student on PY111 you should already know how to find these materials!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed today that the link to the repository had changed.  I&#8217;ve updated it, but in case this happens again you may need to navigate your own way there through the Essex Philosophy Department website at <a href="http://www.essex.ac.uk/philosophy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.essex.ac.uk/philosophy/</a>.  Of course, if you&#8217;re a student on PY111 you should already know how to find these materials!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Defence of Abortion by nedved</title>
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		<dc:creator>nedved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her argument does two things: it ignores the crucial difference between the obligation that parents have to provide their children with &lt;i&gt;normal and natural&lt;/i&gt; means of sustinence (or some replacement for those things), and &lt;i&gt;artificial and extraordinary&lt;/i&gt; means of sustinence.  It also theoretically justifies infanticide, and proves that abortion is no different from infanticide.

Imagine that a baby needed a bone marrow transplant, and its mother was the only donor whose marrow type matched.  Strictly speaking, the mother would not have to provide it with one.  This is because bone marrow transplants are artificial and extraordinary.

But suppose a baby was born into an environment in which there was no replacement available for its mothers breastmilk. It either breastfed, or starved to death.  It would have a right to breastfeed, and the mother could not refuse to allow it to.  This is because breastfeeding is a normal and natural means of sustinence.

If the mother refused to allow the baby to breastfeed, and it died as a result of this, she would be committing infanticide.  No one who supports JJT&#039;s argument can consistently argue that abortion is any different from maternal infanticide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her argument does two things: it ignores the crucial difference between the obligation that parents have to provide their children with <i>normal and natural</i> means of sustinence (or some replacement for those things), and <i>artificial and extraordinary</i> means of sustinence.  It also theoretically justifies infanticide, and proves that abortion is no different from infanticide.</p>
<p>Imagine that a baby needed a bone marrow transplant, and its mother was the only donor whose marrow type matched.  Strictly speaking, the mother would not have to provide it with one.  This is because bone marrow transplants are artificial and extraordinary.</p>
<p>But suppose a baby was born into an environment in which there was no replacement available for its mothers breastmilk. It either breastfed, or starved to death.  It would have a right to breastfeed, and the mother could not refuse to allow it to.  This is because breastfeeding is a normal and natural means of sustinence.</p>
<p>If the mother refused to allow the baby to breastfeed, and it died as a result of this, she would be committing infanticide.  No one who supports JJT&#8217;s argument can consistently argue that abortion is any different from maternal infanticide.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Armin Meiwes: Metzgermeister by Augur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly with all the ills of the world, I think that this an acceptable arrangement morally. Why is everyone else concerned so much with another person&#039;s personal choice to have a particular set of experiences? Especially when the lines of victim and perpetrator are so clearly defined and manufactured in order to accomplish a specific task. No true harm is done given the consensual nature of the arrangement. Personally if we allow for these mutual expressions to exist I am sure that it would create more &quot;healthy&quot; manifestations of these darker urges within humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly with all the ills of the world, I think that this an acceptable arrangement morally. Why is everyone else concerned so much with another person&#8217;s personal choice to have a particular set of experiences? Especially when the lines of victim and perpetrator are so clearly defined and manufactured in order to accomplish a specific task. No true harm is done given the consensual nature of the arrangement. Personally if we allow for these mutual expressions to exist I am sure that it would create more &#8220;healthy&#8221; manifestations of these darker urges within humanity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jim and The Indians by Jim Treglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim has no choice but to walk away.  First, there&#039;s no guarantee that the captain will honor his offer.  He may just kill the other 19 anyway.  Second, if Jim participates in the killing he is liable to be executed for committing murder.  Third, Jim is not killing the twenty; the captain and his soldiers are.  He has no moral responsibility for their deaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim has no choice but to walk away.  First, there&#8217;s no guarantee that the captain will honor his offer.  He may just kill the other 19 anyway.  Second, if Jim participates in the killing he is liable to be executed for committing murder.  Third, Jim is not killing the twenty; the captain and his soldiers are.  He has no moral responsibility for their deaths.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Armin Meiwes: Metzgermeister by cachorrita</title>
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		<dc:creator>cachorrita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can i watch the video</description>
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		<title>Comment on Nietzsche on Mill&#8217;s Utilitarianism by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Nietzsche ever read Mill, otherwise he would have known that Mill distinguished &quot;higher&quot; pleasures from &quot;lower&quot; ones (see the &quot;satisfied pig&quot; quote). You can guess on your own that Mill&#039;s higher pleasures weren&#039;t &quot;fashion and comfort,&quot; which is what Nietzsche designates as &quot;English happiness&quot; (somewhere in BGE). Nietzsche&#039;s critique of utilitarianism is continuous (more or less), I think, with his critique of every morality that puts the herd before the individual. For a good example of the connection between utilitarianism and Christian morality (&quot;love thy neighbor&quot;) see GS 21.  

I wonder what Nietzsche would make of the following Mill quotes:

&quot;The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental or spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.&quot;

&quot;A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Nietzsche ever read Mill, otherwise he would have known that Mill distinguished &#8220;higher&#8221; pleasures from &#8220;lower&#8221; ones (see the &#8220;satisfied pig&#8221; quote). You can guess on your own that Mill&#8217;s higher pleasures weren&#8217;t &#8220;fashion and comfort,&#8221; which is what Nietzsche designates as &#8220;English happiness&#8221; (somewhere in BGE). Nietzsche&#8217;s critique of utilitarianism is continuous (more or less), I think, with his critique of every morality that puts the herd before the individual. For a good example of the connection between utilitarianism and Christian morality (&#8220;love thy neighbor&#8221;) see GS 21.  </p>
<p>I wonder what Nietzsche would make of the following Mill quotes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental or spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jim and The Indians by Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW What a story. The story is immoral in itself. I have an assignment to do in philosophy about this story. What David Hume and Immanuel Kant would have said to do. very hard question. It&#039;s like the story of the cliff where the mother has her son that is evil and another boy that she adopted that is a good boy and she has to choose to save one only because she is not physically strong enough to pull both of them. Then again, it would be more difficult if she had her 2 sons that she loved the same. WOWOWOWOW let me know what you would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW What a story. The story is immoral in itself. I have an assignment to do in philosophy about this story. What David Hume and Immanuel Kant would have said to do. very hard question. It&#8217;s like the story of the cliff where the mother has her son that is evil and another boy that she adopted that is a good boy and she has to choose to save one only because she is not physically strong enough to pull both of them. Then again, it would be more difficult if she had her 2 sons that she loved the same. WOWOWOWOW let me know what you would do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nietzsche on Master and Slave Morality by Max Hydrogen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Hydrogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antony, soy absolomente en acuerdo con tu. Entiendes bien la filosofia de Nietzsche. Nietzsche no iguala Social Darwinism (ni Darwin!) Nietzsche no dijo de mate los infermos. Leyeste bien sos obros.

Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antony, soy absolomente en acuerdo con tu. Entiendes bien la filosofia de Nietzsche. Nietzsche no iguala Social Darwinism (ni Darwin!) Nietzsche no dijo de mate los infermos. Leyeste bien sos obros.</p>
<p>Max</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Tooley Playing with Words? &#8211; A Challenge for PY111 Students by Benjamin Seghers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Seghers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was not in this class, nor am I anywhere near Essex. I just happened to recently see this blog and have just read this post.

I have not read Tooley&#039;s paper, but I am familiar with the argument he puts forward. I think it&#039;s a fairly common one that comes up when trying to define who has rights, especially within the context of the born and unborn. I do not like Tooley&#039;s definition because an unconscious person does not have the capability to have &quot;a conception of oneself as a continuing existing subject,&quot; nor do I believe young babies have this capability. The typical response is that this unconscious person may sometime in the future regain consciousness and therefore should not have his rights revoked. Of course, as it&#039;s been pointed out, fetuses will also sometime in the future obtain the ability to have a conception of himself as a continuing existing subject. So what differentiates the fetus from the unconscious person? Perhaps it&#039;s the fact the unconscious person had a conception of himself as a continuing existing subject prior to becoming unconscious. Again, however, I question the idea that a young infant posses these abilities. Does the young infant therefore lack basic human rights, like the right to exist? That would be a seriously strenuous argument.

I think a more reasonable argument is to first of all say the fetus lacks individual rights because it is not yet an individual. It is wholly physiologically and physically dependent on its host, the mother. It is neither autonomous or biologically discreet. This is how we define an individual. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a human being. The distinction must be made because human beings can have human rights. So long as the fetus (etc.) is physiologically and physically dependent on the mother, it is not an actual human &lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt;.

Further, even if we are to say the fetus &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a human being, it does not have the right to exist inside the mother. It is there by her permission. There exists no right to live inside another. There exists no right to live by the efforts of others--i.e. the right to enslave. A mother who aborts her pregnancy is violating no one&#039;s right, but is in fact exercising her own.

We must give precedent to the living (the born) rather than to the unborn. A potential human being is not the same thing as a human being. An acorn is a potential oak tree, but no one argues that an acorn is an oak tree. As such, only the actual being posses rights, not the potential. For so-called &quot;pro lifers&quot; to deny a woman her right to abortion is to ignore the actual life involved: the mother&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was not in this class, nor am I anywhere near Essex. I just happened to recently see this blog and have just read this post.</p>
<p>I have not read Tooley&#8217;s paper, but I am familiar with the argument he puts forward. I think it&#8217;s a fairly common one that comes up when trying to define who has rights, especially within the context of the born and unborn. I do not like Tooley&#8217;s definition because an unconscious person does not have the capability to have &#8220;a conception of oneself as a continuing existing subject,&#8221; nor do I believe young babies have this capability. The typical response is that this unconscious person may sometime in the future regain consciousness and therefore should not have his rights revoked. Of course, as it&#8217;s been pointed out, fetuses will also sometime in the future obtain the ability to have a conception of himself as a continuing existing subject. So what differentiates the fetus from the unconscious person? Perhaps it&#8217;s the fact the unconscious person had a conception of himself as a continuing existing subject prior to becoming unconscious. Again, however, I question the idea that a young infant posses these abilities. Does the young infant therefore lack basic human rights, like the right to exist? That would be a seriously strenuous argument.</p>
<p>I think a more reasonable argument is to first of all say the fetus lacks individual rights because it is not yet an individual. It is wholly physiologically and physically dependent on its host, the mother. It is neither autonomous or biologically discreet. This is how we define an individual. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is not a human being. The distinction must be made because human beings can have human rights. So long as the fetus (etc.) is physiologically and physically dependent on the mother, it is not an actual human <i>being</i>.</p>
<p>Further, even if we are to say the fetus <i>is</i> a human being, it does not have the right to exist inside the mother. It is there by her permission. There exists no right to live inside another. There exists no right to live by the efforts of others&#8211;i.e. the right to enslave. A mother who aborts her pregnancy is violating no one&#8217;s right, but is in fact exercising her own.</p>
<p>We must give precedent to the living (the born) rather than to the unborn. A potential human being is not the same thing as a human being. An acorn is a potential oak tree, but no one argues that an acorn is an oak tree. As such, only the actual being posses rights, not the potential. For so-called &#8220;pro lifers&#8221; to deny a woman her right to abortion is to ignore the actual life involved: the mother&#8217;s.</p>
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